[CII] welcome to the public CII

Gareth Eason gareth.eason at signal2noise.ie
Tue Dec 1 09:10:49 UTC 2009


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Gadi Evron wrote:
> Michael Maranda wrote:
>> One of the prior messages articulated an aversion to Cyber as
>> non-word.   Please say more?   For now I'll take it as similar to my
>> aversion to prefixing everything with e-; i; and "digital"
> 
> You got it. Just that most of us gave up and use it until the trend is
> over. It's difficult to explain to people why most "cyber-war" stories
> are nonsense when they don't understand other terminology.
[snip]

	Without 'cyber' we cannot have Doctor Who and his epic battle against
the 'cybermen.' It might be a little UK-centric but perhaps some of the
US subscribers have experienced Doctor Who - or at least heard of it. So
end of discuss - 'cyber' MUST stay in the dictionary, at least until the
last of the Time Lords can declare a definitive victory over them  ;-)

	More seriously, cyber-, e-, i-, digital- and other equally misused
prefixes are bad for language, detract from clarity of language, but are
a very real exponent of any developing language in active use. We've
already lost the battle for 'hacker'/'cracker' and apart from September
19th any words derived from 'pirate' are utterly meaningless.

	Let's move on to discussion of the real issues of Critical Internet
Infrastructure - the semantics of the English language (while
interesting) are discussed at great length elsewhere ;-)

	I'd very much like to get some opinions from the group as to where
priorities lie re infrastructure, particularly with respect to:
	- availability
	- reliability
	- openness
	- neutrality
	- freedom/freedoms (for ISPs? for end-users?)
	- oversight (for government? for ISPs? for regulatory bodies?)

	In a similar vein, I'd like to see some discussion on whether people
see regulation as an 'answer', and whether (ISPs?) see self-regulation
or governmental (or other third-party) regulation as required? Optional?
Optimal?

	Thoughts?

	Best regards,
	-->Gar  (not a bot ;-)  )

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