[CII] path selection

[bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com]

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:24:56PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote:
> bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> >On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 02:22:40PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote:
> >>bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> >>>	I have "everything you need to make this work".  I have no need of 
> >>>	Brazilian or Norwegian infrastructure.  They are not critical to me.
> >>What would happen to your connectivity if the Brazilian and Norwegian 
> >>localized internet infrastructures were to stop working?
> >
> >	nothing.  zero.  nada.  zilch.
> >	
> 
> But I also disagree on you not feeling any impact.
> 
> If the Internet in Norway and Brazil goes down, that would mean at the 
> very least a very very slow internet in north/central Europe and South 
> America (in shockwave outwards from these spots, starting from no net at 
> all and tricking down). This due to central hubs of communication going 
> down.

	you are presuming facts not in evidence.  if i have ensured my 
	communications paths do not traverse any shared infrastructure
	in northern/central EU or latin/south america then on what basis
	can you assert shockwave/ripple effects that will effect me?

> 
> This will naturally also result in...
> The net fixing itself by rerouting around these areas, which can be an 
> issue for the entire infrastructure when other areas are over-extended.

	there is no -net- to fix... folks with busted bilateral relationships
	will correct them or not depending on the perceived value in doing so.
	my bilaterals should not affect yours.

 
> Which is one of the reasons why I proselytize that the Internet is in 
> fact Global Critical Infrastructure.

	then we have to go back to what the Internet really is then don't we? 
	:)


> 
> 	Gadi.
> 
> 
> >--bill
> >	
> >
> 
> 
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